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the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wil
the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole...
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here's how the markets are reacting as we edge closer to the fiscal cliff and investors brace for the potential fallout. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and congress have got to work together to stop this dividend tax hike. before it's too late. >>> okay, guys. time to forget about all the fiscal cliff negotiations for just a moment. why? because the entire world is it throwing a giant party to ring in the new year. alina choi is doing her best to keep warm in times square as preparations for tonight kick into high gear. >> reporter: good morning. great to see you. from all the talk about the crystal ball, the confetti and new year's resolutions, here's what you need to know if you come to times square tonight. dress warmly it is frigidly cold, and
here's how the markets are reacting as we edge closer to the fiscal cliff and investors brace for the potential fallout. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president and...
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cliff, will the economy get sucked back into a recession or is a compromise possible? words of wisdom from a wall street journal senior writer right after this break. "wall street journal" senior writer right after this break. [ cellphone chirping ] [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] recession or is a compromise [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. [ male announcer ] when diarrhea hits, kaopectate stops it fast. powerful liquid relief speeds to the source. fast. [ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. >>> we hear plent at this of chatter from pundits that democrats and republicans need to come together. let's get real. president obama has already given a lot more ground than the republicans have, so my advice to senator reid and president o
cliff, will the economy get sucked back into a recession or is a compromise possible? words of wisdom from a wall street journal senior writer right after this break. "wall street journal" senior writer right after this break. [ cellphone chirping ] [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] recession or is a compromise [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live...
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the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy, his face calf cliff. now boehner fails on the vote and next thing you know, the ball is in your court. >> juan: i think you are right. i think boehner at the moment looking weaker. he is out of this altogether at the moment. his troops abandoned him. he is okay keeping the speaker on january 3 when the republican caucus vote but you are hearing rumors about eric cantor who is next to him launching some kind of a coop at the moment. i don't know where it goes. but it seems that he is in a position where the republicans in the senate and the white house are really the ones who w
the republicans are losing the debate on the fiscal cliff. this is obama's economy. let the president and the democrats own it and own the national debt. own the defense cut. instead, boehner and the gang allow the president to star in his own superhero film. he will cut the hawaiian vacation short and come back to save us mere mortal from the fiscal cliff. winning the optics war and winning it big. juan, how did you get the ball back from the republicans? they had it. this was obama's economy,...
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a lot of smart people argue how quickly the fiscal cliff will damage the economy. we'll talk more in the show about what the timetable will be. here's what you need to know. the treasury department said on monday they need to begin taking action to keep us from breaking through the debt ceiling. they can buy us two months with the tricks they have up their sleeve. if we waste that time, we get to the debt ceiling and we haven't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing games with the debt ceiling, that would be fiscal suicide. we breakthrough the debt ceiling, we're talking depression. not a quick recession. it would be the single stupidest and most damaging act of sabotage in american history. and it cannot be allowed to happen. and here, hopefully to tell me why it will not happen is alice, who probably knows more about the budget and the budget deals than probably anybody else alive. she's appointed to president obama's national commission on fiscal responsibility and reform. and she's currently a senior fellow at the brookings instituti
a lot of smart people argue how quickly the fiscal cliff will damage the economy. we'll talk more in the show about what the timetable will be. here's what you need to know. the treasury department said on monday they need to begin taking action to keep us from breaking through the debt ceiling. they can buy us two months with the tricks they have up their sleeve. if we waste that time, we get to the debt ceiling and we haven't climbed back up the fiscal cliff and the republicans begin playing...
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we will get the next report next week for december and we hope the fiscal cliff does not thwart this but the underlying health of the economy is as good as its has been, do you agree, the laugh year or two? >>guest: well, it has been a bad one or two years, so, yes, if you look at it, i agree, it is half full. the glass needs to be a lot more full to keep stocks up at this level. >> we do not want to get ahead of ourselves and i was trying to be bullish on the economy because economists are looking for a downgrade next quarter at 2 percent growth but we have to go back to what happened after tarp, there was so much commotion and people were so concerned about that and the markets sold off and they sold off deeper but came back big. >>guest: over a series of years from 6,000 to 10,000 in the dow over a month and it took several years to get back. we have extended unemployment benefits for yet another year. we are barely bumping across the bottom and the great thing of our stock market we have companies representing america around the world so caterpillar was up big. we do not want to
we will get the next report next week for december and we hope the fiscal cliff does not thwart this but the underlying health of the economy is as good as its has been, do you agree, the laugh year or two? >>guest: well, it has been a bad one or two years, so, yes, if you look at it, i agree, it is half full. the glass needs to be a lot more full to keep stocks up at this level. >> we do not want to get ahead of ourselves and i was trying to be bullish on the economy because...
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economy officially went over the fiscal cliff, the senate passed a deal to avert its worst effects. the bill passed easily. it was a vote of 89-8, and it set up a showdown in the house which will convene four hours from now. republican leader mitch mcconnell said the process wasn't pretty but it got the job done. >> each of us could spend the rest of the week discussing what a perfect solution would have looked like, but the end result would have been the largest tax increase in american history. so, it took an imperfect solution to prevent our constituents from a very real financial pain, but in my view, it was worth the effort. >> so, here's what in that imperfect bill. tax rates will rise for individuals making over $400,000 and couples making more than $450,000. high-end rates for the estate tax and the capital gains tax will rise. all of those elements will be made permanent. in addition, the alternative minimum tax, which is patched every year, will be fixed permanently. several tax credits, including ones for children, college tuition and earned income, will be extended for f
economy officially went over the fiscal cliff, the senate passed a deal to avert its worst effects. the bill passed easily. it was a vote of 89-8, and it set up a showdown in the house which will convene four hours from now. republican leader mitch mcconnell said the process wasn't pretty but it got the job done. >> each of us could spend the rest of the week discussing what a perfect solution would have looked like, but the end result would have been the largest tax increase in american...
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boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealthy. from capitol hill, steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> reaction to the senate's move was swift as many people were still up welcoming the new year. familiar faces on msnbc were in rare form starting with joe scarborough who tweeted, why can't washington ever put together a deal that cults spent? this deal fails on most counts. it's a distressing failure of leadership. "morning joe" regular steve ratner tweeted, the only thing worse than this deal would have been no deal, or maybe not, he added. ezra kline wrote, obama isn't making it easier for res to vote for this deal but probably thinks if the rs kill it they get all the fiscal cliff blame. >>> now deals on secretary of state hillary clinton and the blood clot that has her hospitalized. t
boehner sent house members home to celebrate the new year without a vote to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> listen, this is disgusting. and everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the economy could still take a hit. while the house takes up maybe later today whether to follow the senate's lead and hike taxes on the wealthy. from capitol hill, steve handelsman, nbc news. bill, back to you. >> reaction to the senate's move was swift as many people were still up...
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lawmakers are taking this country over the fiscal cliff. as one senator said today, something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our economy is our congress. let's get right to abc's chief white house correspondent jon karl covering this every step of the way. jon, many angry americans watching all of this. >> reporter: well, david, they just blew it. it is now clear that congress will fail to pass by midnight tonight something to prevent virtually everybody's taxes from going up. they have known for more than a year that tonight was the deadline and they just blew it. the deadline to prevent that massive $600 billion combination of tax hikes and spending cuts will be missed. but the scramble continues. to try to get a deal done and passed over the next day or two, that would put the tax cuts, at least, back in place retro actively. and today, they sure seemed close to a deal. >> i can report that we've reached an agreement on all of the tax -- the tax issue. >> reporter: and even though the deal was not finalized, the presi
lawmakers are taking this country over the fiscal cliff. as one senator said today, something has gone terribly wrong when the biggest threat to our economy is our congress. let's get right to abc's chief white house correspondent jon karl covering this every step of the way. jon, many angry americans watching all of this. >> reporter: well, david, they just blew it. it is now clear that congress will fail to pass by midnight tonight something to prevent virtually everybody's taxes from...
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standpoint, that is much, much more scarier than anything that happens with the fiscal cliff. >> who gets us through that? anyone left? >> well, your guess is as good as mine. white house people say that obama refuses to negotiate and he believes that the public is behind him, but it is not a compelling argument no the house republica republican, and that is the huge danger that people are focusing on which is the debt limit, because it is not part of the discussions, and that means we will go through it again in 60 or 90 days. >> thank you, josh green from bloomberg business. that is "hardball" for now, and coming up next is "your business" with jj ramberg. that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. see what's new from campbell's. progressive direct and other car insurance companies? yes. but you're progressive, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you
standpoint, that is much, much more scarier than anything that happens with the fiscal cliff. >> who gets us through that? anyone left? >> well, your guess is as good as mine. white house people say that obama refuses to negotiate and he believes that the public is behind him, but it is not a compelling argument no the house republica republican, and that is the huge danger that people are focusing on which is the debt limit, because it is not part of the discussions, and that means...
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. >> economist worried if we do go off the fiscal cliff, it's now averted strike would have combined for a deadly one-two punch to the u.s. economy. now the overall deal is at 100% signed off on by februar february 6, then we are right back to where we were this morning and again the national retail federation and the florida governor rick scott will be urging president obama to prevent a strike invoking the tap partly act and something not done since president george w. bush did it in 2002. back to you. >> doug: phil keating in miami. the so-called milk cliff that would also kick in to effect the lawmakers can't avoid the fiscal cliff they be averted now. hill source tells fox news and the senate agriculture leaders working on a year long extension of all farm programs. the source noted that the truman era law is so old it would take weeks to implement. even if the old law expires don't expect immediate spike if milk prices. >>> congress is still working to find agreement on the $60.4 billion emergency spending bill for hurricane sandy victims. some conservatives want the government
. >> economist worried if we do go off the fiscal cliff, it's now averted strike would have combined for a deadly one-two punch to the u.s. economy. now the overall deal is at 100% signed off on by februar february 6, then we are right back to where we were this morning and again the national retail federation and the florida governor rick scott will be urging president obama to prevent a strike invoking the tap partly act and something not done since president george w. bush did it in...
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if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes. and we're then going to have some tough negotiations in terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy and create jobs. >> if the fight comes back -- i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security, are you prepared in the first year of your second term, to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to benefits in medicare, which your own debt commission suggested you'd have to do if you were really going to shore up medicare at least. are you prepared to do that in your first year of the second term? >> what i've said is i'm prepared to do everything i can to make sure that medicare and social security are there not just for this generation but for future generations. >> you've got to talk tough to seniors. >> i have, one of the proposals we've made is something called chain cpi. which sounds technical, but basically makes an adjustment in terms of how inflation is cal
if we can get that done, that takes a big bite out of the fiscal cliff. it avoids the worst outcomes. and we're then going to have some tough negotiations in terms of how we continue to reduce the deficit, grow the economy and create jobs. >> if the fight comes back -- i want to ask you specifically about entitlements, medicare and social security, are you prepared in the first year of your second term, to significantly reform those two programs, to go beyond the cuts you've suggested to...
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they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he wanted to burn down the neighborhood and do what i like doing best, killing people. a convicted felon who spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother with a hammer was armed with three firearms including a bushmaster, the same gun used in the school massacre. he may have killed his sister and the home had human remains believed to be hers. >> police say spangler took his own life. governor neal abercrombie, democrats are urging a swift deployment so the replacement can on a deficit deal. of abercrombie's options, congresswoman colleen anabusha and senator inouye's dying wish is
they had a grim outlook for a fiscal cliff deal and the impact of the tragedy in newtown. on the radar this morning, chilling details in the christmas eve firefighter ambush. we could find out soon who will be saying aloha to the senate and a broken record in the house of representatives. new details out of webster, new york. william spangler set a car and house on fire and ambushed firefighters, opening fire on them as they arrive on the scene. police found a note he left behind saying he...
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john thune says the senate should have acted months ago to keep the economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i just find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz, you know, i really hope we can get something done here in the last day as we put two people together, basically, to resolve. this. >> the two people were senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden who worked the phones late last night and early this morning after talks between mcconnell and majority leader harry reid stalled. >> discussions continued today on a plan to protect middle class families from tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues on which the two sides are still apart, negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the agreement would set the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. it would set the tax rate on upper income people at 39.6%. the rate under former president bill clinton. estates would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals, and $10 million fo
john thune says the senate should have acted months ago to keep the economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i just find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz, you know, i really hope we can get something done here in the last day as we put two people together, basically, to resolve. this. >> the two people were senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and vice president joe biden who worked the phones late last night and...
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. >>> now to continuing coverage of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that sell food or alcohol cannot distribute plastic bags to their customers. in place of the single use bags stores are allowed to use paper or reusable bags but they have to charge at least a dime for each bag. customers are being encouraged to bring their own bags when shopping. restaurants can still provide plastic bags to customers. >> i'm trying to remember. >> some of the places i go they give you a discount. they give you five cents if you bring your own bag. >>> time now 6:08. tara is back to talk about your commute. you're also telling us about free rides for new years eve. >> that is right. muni is fre
. >>> now to continuing coverage of that looming fiscal cliff. 15 hours from right now the u.s. economy will go over that cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 6:15 the new numbers that are being thrown around this morning. >>> it is 6:07. starting tomorrow alameda county grocery stores and most other stores that...
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economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class families from the tax increase tomorrow. there are a number of issues in which the two sides are still apart. negotiations are continuing as i speak. >> the agreement would set the threshold for extending the bush tax cuts at $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for families. i would set the tax rate for upper income people at 39.6%. the rate under president clinton. the states would be taxed at 40% above $5 million for individuals and $10 million for a married couple. unemployment benefits would be extented a year, as with the medicare doc fix. it would permanently fix the a terptive minimum tax. a big concern for m
economy going off the fiscal cliff. >> i find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz. i hope we can get something done on the last day. we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> the two people were senate republican lea leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden who worked the phones after talks between mcconnell and harry reid stalled. >> discussions continue today on plan to affect the middle class...
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all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday. this afternoon, house and senate leaders met with president obama at the white house. they talked for about an hour. afterwards, president obama said he was modestly optimistic. bypassing house speaker john boehner who had trouble getting his fellow republicans to agree to anything, the president called on senate majority and minority leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell to work out a deal and then present it to a house. he also laid out a scaled down mini deal if they can't manage it. >> if we don't see an agreement between the two leaders in the senate, i expect a bill to go on the floor, and
all of it is at stake if the country goes over the fiscal cliff. it's a cliff that lawmakers built. they set the tuesday deadline, they knew it was coming for more than a year. but even now, they have done little to agree to a package before that time. keeping them honest, the people in this building have known what's coming on tuesday, yet they're only returning to this building to get back to work just now. senators came back yesterday. house members, well, they woet be back until sunday....
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>> well, listen, we are in an economy and very few and if we went over the fiscal cliff totally and no patch and nothing was fixed in the next if few week weeks and i don't believe we will do that, but if we did the hit to the average family could be as high as $3,500 a year and maybe as low as $2,500, but as high as $35 and not only is that a lot of money, but it is an economy of real money and real expenditures, but the follow-up effect is much bigger. so that the family may withstand having $3,500 less, but the people buy fewer things, and the economy slows down and then people lose their jobs. so maybe you can live without $3,500 less a year, be you can'tley without a job. that is the more serious effect of what it does to my paycheck in a month is whether this slows down the economy. we are not going very quickly in the u.s. economy, but we are are moving forward. people, that is where it hits you when it is not your fault and people are tired. in 2008 something happened to the economy that was with nobody's fault and created by people on high and now we are doing the same thing,
>> well, listen, we are in an economy and very few and if we went over the fiscal cliff totally and no patch and nothing was fixed in the next if few week weeks and i don't believe we will do that, but if we did the hit to the average family could be as high as $3,500 a year and maybe as low as $2,500, but as high as $35 and not only is that a lot of money, but it is an economy of real money and real expenditures, but the follow-up effect is much bigger. so that the family may withstand...
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put us in recession, regardless of the fiscal cliff. >> glover for questions made the comments yesterday on cnn if a -- grover norquist made the comments yesterday on cnn. >>> new this morning, 7-eleven trying to get healthier. the chain is in the process of introducing more nutritious items. that includes yogurt parfaits and lean turkey sandwiches. 7-eleven wants 20% sales to come from fresh foods byb7ñ the end of 2015. also retooling old favorites. jelly doughnuts sold in miniature versions. >>> that ipad under your tree may already be out-of-date. a japanese tech blog reports a new version of the popular tablet will hit stores in march, the blog says the new ipad will be thinner and lighter than the last, possibly as thin as the ipad mini. >> here's bloomberg reporter deborah costra. >>> good morning. merry christmas if you want to keep holidays merry and avoid unexpected medical bills remove all medications from cabinets into a secure area to protect loved ones who might be visiting, they can be taken by mistake or worse. more than half of the people addicted to prescription drugs g
put us in recession, regardless of the fiscal cliff. >> glover for questions made the comments yesterday on cnn if a -- grover norquist made the comments yesterday on cnn. >>> new this morning, 7-eleven trying to get healthier. the chain is in the process of introducing more nutritious items. that includes yogurt parfaits and lean turkey sandwiches. 7-eleven wants 20% sales to come from fresh foods byb7ñ the end of 2015. also retooling old favorites. jelly doughnuts sold in...
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. >> dave: it's funny, we're talking about the fiscal cliff stuff and jobs seem to be left out of the conversation. we haven't heard about much to jump start the economy. tell us what the jobs act is. >> first of all, the financing cliff, you can either raise taxes, cut spending or grow the economy. there has been very little discussion about growth. congress did something great and president obama signed it. it was called the jobs act. it was about growth and a lot of growth through innovation. what it did is made easier forebitt entwhistles to raise money. they could crowd funds, go out to more people before having these commission regulations, they could do many other things they couldn't do under the present law. but it did require the security and exchange commission to issue some rules. it turns out those rules have still not been issued. it's been about a year now and they've been held up because the chairman of the sec, chairwoman, shapiro, no relation to me, decided to sit on them because she was concerned about her legacy, according to some e-mails. >> dave: here is what pat
. >> dave: it's funny, we're talking about the fiscal cliff stuff and jobs seem to be left out of the conversation. we haven't heard about much to jump start the economy. tell us what the jobs act is. >> first of all, the financing cliff, you can either raise taxes, cut spending or grow the economy. there has been very little discussion about growth. congress did something great and president obama signed it. it was called the jobs act. it was about growth and a lot of growth...
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economy will go over the fiscal cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight east coast time income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 5:15 the two men leading the last minute negotiations. >>> the chp is trying to figure out what led up to a crash that killed a motorcycle rider in concord last night. it happened just before 6:30 on kicker pass road. the chp says no other cars were involved and it's unclear why the driver lost control. >>> three people are recovering after a crash after a car crashed into a concord funeral home. it happened yesterday afternoon at the we met brothers concord funeral chop ill on clayton road. it appears two teens were racing when they lost control and crashed their car into the building. the teens were taken to the hospital with serious injuries. a 66-year-old man who was inside the building has a broken leg. police interviewed a second driver that may have been racing the teens but have no arrests yet. >>> police officers are out there watching for drive
economy will go over the fiscal cliff unless congress and the white house can work out a last minute deal. if there is no new budget deal by midnight tonight east coast time income tax rates will go up for all americans. coming up at 5:15 the two men leading the last minute negotiations. >>> the chp is trying to figure out what led up to a crash that killed a motorcycle rider in concord last night. it happened just before 6:30 on kicker pass road. the chp says no other cars were...
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pain, patience has worn thin. >> this whole fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in la la land and everyone is saying how you're acting like a bunch of spoiled brat who is are r more interested in being right than in doing the the right thing and representing the people who elected you. >> reporter: mary snow, cnn, new york. >>> i'm joe johns. thanks for joining us. cnn newsroom continues now with ashlee banfield. >> we went over the fiscal cliff. yep at midnight and then just a couple hours later, the senate came up with a solution. now it's off to the house. the house has to sign off. they will get back to work this afternoon. what's in the deal? well, it starts with the new income tax threshold. those folks agreed to let the taxes go up but only on the family who is make over $450,000 in combined income. the itemized deductions will also be capped at $300,000 for families. and the estate tax, that was a big sticking point for lawmakers, and now the tax rate goes up to 40% for estates that are valu
pain, patience has worn thin. >> this whole fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in la la land and everyone is saying how you're acting like a bunch of spoiled brat who is are r more interested in being right than in doing the the right thing and representing the people who elected you. >> reporter: mary snow, cnn, new york. >>> i'm joe johns. thanks for joining us. cnn newsroom continues...
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could mean for the economy and washington. >>> if lawmakers force the economy off the fiscal cliff, over 2 million jobs will be at risk, including over 956,000 small business jobs from supplier companies and mom and pop stores. er ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> while europe has been trading in large part around what we're going to do or won't to in this country, that's driven trading overnight in asia. >> but you tonight have pan i go. you have an absence of panic on both sides. many european markets today didn't open at all. half days in the like of london, for example. similarly over in spain and in amsterdam, they also had a half day today. and it was a negative bi
could mean for the economy and washington. >>> if lawmakers force the economy off the fiscal cliff, over 2 million jobs will be at risk, including over 956,000 small business jobs from supplier companies and mom and pop stores. er ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger...
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economy is on the verge of taking off. but the fiscal cliff mess could get in the way. how much could eexpect in 2013 with a deal or without a deal. well, i guess i can double check... my watch! [ male announcer ] it pays to double check, with state farm. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. >>> welcome back to "your money," we welcome our viewers here in the united states and around the world. breaking news on the fiscal cliff. there's been a significant snag in the negotiations with just fewer than two days remaining to go. about 36 hours remaining on the countdown clock. dana bash is on capitol hill with latest. dana, what have you got? >> this kbifs you a good sense of where things stand. they're at a stands
economy is on the verge of taking off. but the fiscal cliff mess could get in the way. how much could eexpect in 2013 with a deal or without a deal. well, i guess i can double check... my watch! [ male announcer ] it pays to double check, with state farm. so, the 5.3-liter v8 silverado can tow up to 9,600 pounds? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for...
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cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first
cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point...
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"fiscal cliff." the senate is close to a deal as the clock ticks toward midnight and the nation teeters on the edge of the so-called "fiscal cliff." >> let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. >> reporter: the tentative deal would extend bush-era tax cuts for families making $450,000 a year and individuals making $400,000. it would also increase the taxes on estates worth more than $5 million and extend unemployment benefits for one year. president obama said he would have preferred a grand bargain that solved all of washington's revenue and spending problems. >> with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. [ laughter ] >> it may be we can do it in stages. >> reporter: negotiations have been going on all day. lawmakers and aides moving back and forth between meeting rooms here on capitol hill on what is normally a quiet new year's eve. the major sticking upon the now is spending. the president suggested lawmakers mak
"fiscal cliff." the senate is close to a deal as the clock ticks toward midnight and the nation teeters on the edge of the so-called "fiscal cliff." >> let's pass the tax relief portion now. let's take what's been agreed to and get moving. >> reporter: the tentative deal would extend bush-era tax cuts for families making $450,000 a year and individuals making $400,000. it would also increase the taxes on estates worth more than $5 million and extend unemployment...
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but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass plan "b" that very same week. then it was mr. boehner who said it was up to the senate, someone else's problem. just from a pr perspective, what john boehner has done here is a debacle for the republicans. and the white house, they've just been sitting back the last week or so and letting it happen. but today, they gave us their plan going forward. you could call it deal and jam. >> i'm optimistic we may still be able to reach an agreement that could pass both houses in time. senators reid and mcconnell are working on such an agreement as we speak. but if an agreement isn't reached in time, between
but the other thing about the fiscal cliff is you don't want to be blamed for going over it. it is going to be bad for the economy. it's bad for the country. what speaker boehner's done is create a situation in which we're going to go over the fiscal cliff. but the people who want higher taxes, the democrats, they're not going to be blamed for it. after all, it was john boehner who walked away from negotiations to try plan "b" last week. then it was john boehner who planned to pass...
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just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and if we went over the cliff and stayed over the cliff for a significant amount of time, the economy could eventually begin to dip back into recession. and that is really the big concern here. you've heard president obama talk about those concerns when he has held some of these public campaign events. he held one today to pressure congress to act. he has talked about the fact that this is a really about americans and the economy and preventing the economic recovery from being harmed. milissa? >> kristen, there concern at all in the white house that if
just three hours until we head over the fiscal cliff. the large concern here is the impact that going over the cliff would have on the economy. now economists say look, it's not going to be a windfall on wednesday. it's not going to be a complete disaster all at once. but what could happen is that the markets could begin to respond on wednesday. they're closed of course tomorrow for the holiday. and then over time, the average american could wind up paying about $2,000 more in their taxes. and...
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cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there was some miracle overnight. gregg: i doubt that. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, th
cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there...
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that gives you roughly $200 billion and that is exactly the scaling we have to take of a fiscal cliff. it is a gradual bunny slope so the economy can grow close to 3% this year. they are so very close with the two or three last pieces and then you go to the grand bargain where you can, robert, bring back in the chained cpi which the president had recommended. that is where you get the $3 trillion of debt reduction to have sustainable debt-to-gdp ratio. >> we're not going to get anything settled -- let me read this. polls consistently show strong public support for raising taxes on the mg airs and billionaires obama kept talking about and most americans are more inclined to blame congressional regimes. so do democrats have the advantage right now? >> he does. we've had this national conversation after the past 14 months. to the president's credit he has been very clear and transparent about raising taxes on individuals making a certain income level. the question then becomes, where do the republicans fit into this? i'll remind you and the audience the republicans got re-elected to the
that gives you roughly $200 billion and that is exactly the scaling we have to take of a fiscal cliff. it is a gradual bunny slope so the economy can grow close to 3% this year. they are so very close with the two or three last pieces and then you go to the grand bargain where you can, robert, bring back in the chained cpi which the president had recommended. that is where you get the $3 trillion of debt reduction to have sustainable debt-to-gdp ratio. >> we're not going to get anything...
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cliff and the i am fact it could have on the economy and the stock market. >>> well, it's hard to speculate on the markets. obviously business and investors are going to feel negative about the economy. if you look at the projections of 2013 people felt the economy would continue to grow unemployment would continue to tick down housing would continue to improve but what has been holding us back is the dysfunction in washington. if people start seeing that on january 1st this problem still hasn't been solved we haven't seen the kind of self sit reduction we could have had had the republicans been willing to take the deal that i gave them if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means con souler spending is going to be depressed then obviously that's going to have an adverse reaction on the markets. >> the markets will be opening 90 minutes before negotiations are set to resume. we will have a live preview on bank on this coming up with lauren simonetti. >> time now for your 5@5:30. the top five stories making news for you at this hour. another scathing report released on the bengha
cliff and the i am fact it could have on the economy and the stock market. >>> well, it's hard to speculate on the markets. obviously business and investors are going to feel negative about the economy. if you look at the projections of 2013 people felt the economy would continue to grow unemployment would continue to tick down housing would continue to improve but what has been holding us back is the dysfunction in washington. if people start seeing that on january 1st this problem...
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for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in making some compromises if they will see it that way. and particularly the demographic challenges. so, you know, ultimately i think the one thing to do is keep -- be realistic about the timetable. i'm not sure the president is going to get everything done that he wants to in 2013 but i would bet on immigration reform. maybe that's crazy and you'll have me back here and i'll have to say no i was wrong. i do think it's so much in republicans' self-interest. they've got some
for the foreseeable future. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap...
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it appears for nous, the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff have run into some major road blocs. but those discussions will continue on some level. >>> republicans and democrats as we know are playing chicken with the economy as the if is cal cliff approaches. we'll get a.b. stoddard's take as the clock ticks down. and people are already talking about who they want to be the next president. just who are you voting for in 2016? we've got the answer. [ male announcer ] this december, remember you can stay in and like something ♪ or you can get out there with your family and actually like something. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on offering some of our best values of the year. this is the pursuit of perfection. let's say you want to get ahead how do you get from here... to here? at university of phoenix we're moving career planning forward so you can start figuring that out sooner. ln fact, by thinking about where want your education to lead, while you're still in school, you might find the best route... leads somewhere you weren't even looking. let's get to wo
it appears for nous, the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff have run into some major road blocs. but those discussions will continue on some level. >>> republicans and democrats as we know are playing chicken with the economy as the if is cal cliff approaches. we'll get a.b. stoddard's take as the clock ticks down. and people are already talking about who they want to be the next president. just who are you voting for in 2016? we've got the answer. [ male announcer ] this december,...
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economy will go over the fiscal cliff just as we ring in 2013 at midnight. nbc's kristin welker is live at the white house. kristin, let's get to the fiscal cliff in a moment. you've got some breaking news. >> reporter: i do. we have some breaking news on secretary clinton's health. as you know, he was admitted to the hospital due to a clot. of course, she had fainted a couple weeks ago and she's been recovering ever since. i'm going to read you this statement from her doctors. they say this is a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. it did not result in a stroke or neurological damage. to help dissolve this clot her medical team began treating the secretary with blood thinners. she will be released once the medication dose has been established in all other aspects of her recovery. the secretary is making excellent progress and we are confident she will make a full recovery. she is in good spirits engaging with her doctors, her family, and her staff. so, again, those are from her doctors who are
economy will go over the fiscal cliff just as we ring in 2013 at midnight. nbc's kristin welker is live at the white house. kristin, let's get to the fiscal cliff in a moment. you've got some breaking news. >> reporter: i do. we have some breaking news on secretary clinton's health. as you know, he was admitted to the hospital due to a clot. of course, she had fainted a couple weeks ago and she's been recovering ever since. i'm going to read you this statement from her doctors. they say...
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not just the fiscal cliff with the potential threat to the economy, thousands of dockworkers from maine to texas could go on strike within days if their union can't reach a deal with major shipping companies. these are the workers who move goods from the nation's ports to the stores. >> everybody from your mom and pop retailer to your farmer, to the trucking company who has go in and pick up the containers at the ports. this will be felt not just at the local economy, but nationwide for everybody else who relies on these ports. >> one port official says east and gulf coast ports handle about $55 billion worth of cargo a month so a strike could have a major effect on the retail business. >>> land lines not going the way of the vcr just yet. older americans are slow to get rid of land lines and go mobile. the centers for disease control asked 20,000 households about trends throughout the year. the study found about 52% use cell phones for all of their cal calls, that's less than 2% increase from previous years. the older generation is slower to make the switch. >>> patrick democracy might
not just the fiscal cliff with the potential threat to the economy, thousands of dockworkers from maine to texas could go on strike within days if their union can't reach a deal with major shipping companies. these are the workers who move goods from the nation's ports to the stores. >> everybody from your mom and pop retailer to your farmer, to the trucking company who has go in and pick up the containers at the ports. this will be felt not just at the local economy, but nationwide for...
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if it is not because of the fiscal cliff, then there is more reason to be concerned. we saw in the sentiment figures, especially in the last month, there is a clear sentiment shot. perhaps even a real spending shot for businesses. five months of slumping, the last two months showed healthy gains. consumer spending, personal income, unemployment claims are low. what do you make of that? >> that is the first thing we are getting. but, harrison, makes a good point, is the concern shifting from the business sector to consumers which are are going wait a minute. the return is happening. the weakness of consumers will be one reason to pause in the first quarter now that we know the debt ceiling is in the quarter. >> that is going to remove the first quarter. coming back. kelly evans is going to stay with us for the rest of the show. and we will go back to washington for updates on the fiscal cliff. we'll see, i'm larry kudlow. stay with us. kick off 2013 with style. people and industries and million dollars rackets. the new year's day marathon on cnbc. 315 horsepower. what'
if it is not because of the fiscal cliff, then there is more reason to be concerned. we saw in the sentiment figures, especially in the last month, there is a clear sentiment shot. perhaps even a real spending shot for businesses. five months of slumping, the last two months showed healthy gains. consumer spending, personal income, unemployment claims are low. what do you make of that? >> that is the first thing we are getting. but, harrison, makes a good point, is the concern shifting...
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economy from going over the fiscal cliff. if lawmakers don't reach a solution by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will increase for all americans. coming up at 7:15, the two key players who are now in charge of negotiating a last-minute deal. >>> time now, 7:03. grocery stores and other stores in alameda county who sell food and alcohol won't be able to give you plastic bag. in place of the single use bags, stores can use paper or reusable bags but will have to charge you at coast a -- at least a dime per bag. those who collect food stamp the won't have to pay -- stamps won't have to pay. >>> minimum wage goes up to 10.55 tomorrow. university of kentucky economists say that's hurting the youngest members of the work force because employers don't want to pay teenagers more than $10 plus benefits to get their first jobs. >>> just over an hour ago, millions of people in sydney, australia, rang in 2013. [ cheers ] >> crowds gathered to watch the skyline explode with fireworks. 1.5million people were expected to
economy from going over the fiscal cliff. if lawmakers don't reach a solution by midnight tonight, east coast time, income tax rates will increase for all americans. coming up at 7:15, the two key players who are now in charge of negotiating a last-minute deal. >>> time now, 7:03. grocery stores and other stores in alameda county who sell food and alcohol won't be able to give you plastic bag. in place of the single use bags, stores can use paper or reusable bags but will have to...
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is really at stake, people's taxes are at stake, and if we go over the fiscal cliff, individuals will see taxes go up by $2,000, there is a lot of pressure on congress and white house to take action. that pleasure is playing a huge role. >> kristen welker and kelly o'donnell, thank you, both. we continue our breaking coverage of fiscal cliff talks and what appears to he about a last-minute break through when we come back. please stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. now...guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market is doing and being ready, no matter what happens, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense, from td ameritrade. [ ship horn
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cliff. >> if in fact we do go over the fiscal cliff it means the economy is going to go down pretty sharply. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. . gregg: you expect accrued of lines when you're shopping. how about sharks? look at those cameras rolling. a giant aquarium bursts, e phroedz insid explodes inside a mall in sang high china it sends glass, water, everywhere, including sharks. fortunately the sharks weren't terribly hungry at the moment and they didn't get very far. patti ann: george h.w. bush is in intensive care at a houston hospital battling a subject born fever. the former president has been sick for a few weeks now. on november 7th he was admitted to methodist hospital in houston what cough. he was later released only to be readmitted on november 23rd. by december 13th a hospital spokesman said the former president was improving and should be able to
cliff. >> if in fact we do go over the fiscal cliff it means the economy is going to go down pretty sharply. [ buzzing ] bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. . gregg: you expect accrued of lines when you're shopping. how about sharks? look at those cameras rolling. a giant...
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that's a surprise to me because of all the uncertainty the fiscal cliff has wrought in the economy. here's an interesting comment from senator tim johnson, your colleague, a democrat. sometimes all the market takes is to make them see the light. that is via politico. if you don't get a deal and the markets are closed tomorrow, and you open to a couple of really big down days, is that all it takes to strike a deal? >> i hope not. hopefully congress has learned what failure to strike a deal can mean to the american economy. >> is that thought still fresh? >> it's fresh in our mind. i remember the deal we had to pass on t.a.r.p. to help our financial markets. i don't want to revisit that again. >> we've heard all kinds of stuff this morning. as you noi, senator, you probably hear this from your constituents, they're so disinterested in the process, they're so disinterested in the sausage being made. what they want to know if that there are like minded, good, smart people in that congress we're looking at right now who all have phones and blackberrys and actually work in the same buildi
that's a surprise to me because of all the uncertainty the fiscal cliff has wrought in the economy. here's an interesting comment from senator tim johnson, your colleague, a democrat. sometimes all the market takes is to make them see the light. that is via politico. if you don't get a deal and the markets are closed tomorrow, and you open to a couple of really big down days, is that all it takes to strike a deal? >> i hope not. hopefully congress has learned what failure to strike a deal...
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cliff that he had been having with congressional leaders this afternoon. he said it was the bare minimum that congressional leaders could come up with a deal and it was the wrong thing to do to allow taxes to come up. i want to bring in christin welker. christin, it sounded like the president was saying he's got at least an agreement that should be an up or down vote, no matter what the agreement looks like on the senate and then on to the house. is that what you heard, too? >> reporter: that is what i heard. he essentially said, look, i asked reid and mcconnell to get some sort of a compromise if they can't do this in a reasonable time, he's asking them to give an up or down vote on this bare minimum package that he outlined last friday that he talked about today, as well, extending the tax cuts as well as sort of staving off some of those deep cuts that are set to go into effect. but he also said he's modestly optimistic, which suggests this is certainly not a done deal. you also heard him talk about the fact that this is something the average american d
cliff that he had been having with congressional leaders this afternoon. he said it was the bare minimum that congressional leaders could come up with a deal and it was the wrong thing to do to allow taxes to come up. i want to bring in christin welker. christin, it sounded like the president was saying he's got at least an agreement that should be an up or down vote, no matter what the agreement looks like on the senate and then on to the house. is that what you heard, too? >> reporter:...
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meant to be a temporary boost to the economy. and in the fiscal cliff, it is really temporary. they're not going to extend it. >> how important it is, the markets are not open today but they're going to be open tomorrow, that there is some real deal in hand from the senate side and the house side to indicate there is stability here? >> so look, you had a good year for stocks, s&p 500 up 13%. you had stocks up very strongly on the last trading day that they could trade, right? they are anticipating a deal. if you don't get a deal, markets are closed today if you don't get a deal it would be tough for tocks. if you do get a deal -- >> i want to interrupt you for a moment. i want viewers to know what we're watching here. this is live at the white house. the vice president getting into the motorcade there. you can see the secret service outside. the vehicle. and of course the motorcade traveling to the hill where he'll be meeting with the house democrats to talk about pushing forward on the house side. i think we're turning some tape here. you can actually see the vice president, h
meant to be a temporary boost to the economy. and in the fiscal cliff, it is really temporary. they're not going to extend it. >> how important it is, the markets are not open today but they're going to be open tomorrow, that there is some real deal in hand from the senate side and the house side to indicate there is stability here? >> so look, you had a good year for stocks, s&p 500 up 13%. you had stocks up very strongly on the last trading day that they could trade, right?...
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really, is about wall street fraud that drove the economy over the fiscal cliff, and the financial crisis inquiry commission concluded that the collapse in 2008 based on wall street fraud resulted in a london dollars trillion lost of household wealth and -- $11 trillion loss of household wealth and savings. obama says this was "legal." this is the problem. we have lawlessness on wall street and washington, d.c. and they're committing crimes. we have massive fraud and cooking the books both on wall street and in washington that is not reported. host: denni says we can only hope that democrats do not get enough votes to do this deal. we are learning the democrats expect almost all of their members to vote in favor of the deal in the house. bobbie, college station, texas. go ahead. caller: i do believe we need to do drug testing for welfare, do some things with unemployment, motivate people to get jobs. so many people rely money coming in and they do not do anything about it. why would you go out and work if somebody is going to hand it to you? we need to stop some of these hud for people. l
really, is about wall street fraud that drove the economy over the fiscal cliff, and the financial crisis inquiry commission concluded that the collapse in 2008 based on wall street fraud resulted in a london dollars trillion lost of household wealth and -- $11 trillion loss of household wealth and savings. obama says this was "legal." this is the problem. we have lawlessness on wall street and washington, d.c. and they're committing crimes. we have massive fraud and cooking the books...
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even if you take the fiscal cliff off the table. the suggestion was actually that coming into this we're actually in a much better position given the housing situation, given some of the new energy things that are going on, that maybe all of this doom and gloom is unfounded. fair? unfair? >> fair. undoubtedly we're in a better position today than we were a year ago. the housing market has healed. companies, especially the big companies, are doing great. they have lots of cash, and consumer household balances are improving. so undoubtedly, the economy is healing slowly. but it's not healing at a critical mass. so unless government sorts out the headwinds, unless government corrects market failures and public goods issues, we're not going to have enough critical mass to get into higher growth, lower unemployment, and better income equality. that's the issue. >> that's the issue now. but mohamed, just going back and trying to figure out why the market hasn't reacted more strongly do this you think it's more of a bet on the fed than on
even if you take the fiscal cliff off the table. the suggestion was actually that coming into this we're actually in a much better position given the housing situation, given some of the new energy things that are going on, that maybe all of this doom and gloom is unfounded. fair? unfair? >> fair. undoubtedly we're in a better position today than we were a year ago. the housing market has healed. companies, especially the big companies, are doing great. they have lots of cash, and...
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filing i reports like missy, of fayetteville, arkansas. >> this fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in lala land, and eve everyone is saying how you're asking like spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than doing the right thing and representing the people who elected you. >> mary snow, cnn, new york. >> more interesting, being right than doing the right thing for your country. cnn's coverage of the fiscal cliff continues right after this.
filing i reports like missy, of fayetteville, arkansas. >> this fiscal cliff mess shows how incredibly out of touch you are with the way people really live in this country. you are off in lala land, and eve everyone is saying how you're asking like spoiled brats who are more interested in being right than doing the right thing and representing the people who elected you. >> mary snow, cnn, new york. >> more interesting, being right than doing the right thing for your country....
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if we go over the fiscal cliff, the risk to the economy is strong. there is it to families is real. it is as if politicians are playing tug of war. as soon as we get through the fiscal cliff -- the hope is we would replace the fiscal cliff with real policies that would keep us from going over it. now looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle the challenges right now. the partisan environment is getting worse and worse. that leaves us with questions about whether these guys can govern. host: front page of "the new york times." let me read a few points. "more difficult to reach a compromise." guest: that is absolutely true. i feel we're watching a game of finger-pointing and not much else. both sides are pointing fingers and shouting it is the other guy's fault. what if any other business environment worked this way instead of solving the problems and working together? the toxic environment calls into question when we of challenges or other important issues -- can the american political system step up and deal with sit? the answer is not very well. we feel sa
if we go over the fiscal cliff, the risk to the economy is strong. there is it to families is real. it is as if politicians are playing tug of war. as soon as we get through the fiscal cliff -- the hope is we would replace the fiscal cliff with real policies that would keep us from going over it. now looks as though we're not going to be able to do anything to tackle the challenges right now. the partisan environment is getting worse and worse. that leaves us with questions about whether these...